Kundalini Meets Saturn | The Karmic Truth Nobody Talks About with Melanie Martines [The Sacred Style Podcast-Ep. 11]

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What we cover:

• 00:00:02 – Welcome to the Sacred Style Podcast

• 05:00:00 – Feeling disconnected, burned out & lost

• 9:00:00 – The importance of surrender & feeling safe

• 12:00:01 – Emotional release, healing & energy movement

• 17:00:02 – Combining astrology, human design & branding

• 22:00:03 – Spiritual healing, intuition & the power of free will 

• 00:27:20 - What an “Astro Awakening Session” Really Is

• 00:31:30 - Healing Leadership Wounds & Stepping Into CEO Energy

• 00:36:00 - Spiritual Awakening, Transformation & the Phoenix Rising

• 00:46:51 - Final Advice: Working With Saturn & Listening to Your Heart

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Daniela

Hey beautiful soul, and welcome to the Sacred Style Podcast — a safe space where we get real and go deep to explore the intersection of modern spirituality, entrepreneurship, identity, and purpose.

Hosted by intuitive artist and entrepreneur Daniela West, join us as we explore the transformational journey of becoming more fully you: whole, healed, and human.

Welcome, welcome everybody. I’m so excited that you’re here with me on the Sacred Style Podcast. I have a super exciting guest with us here today.

Her name is Melanie Martines. She is an astrologer, transformation and alignment practitioner, as well as the voice behind Saturn on My AC. It was also a dream to work together to create her beautiful website.

Using astrology as the framework and blending in somatic breathwork, kundalini energy transmission, and the MAT method, Melanie guides you through cosmic alchemy in motion, which is a grounded, holistic approach to embodied healing and real transformation.

Whether you’re seeking a major life shift, reclaiming your identity, or simply searching for deeper meaning, Melanie helps you awaken clarity, align with your purpose, and step fully into your power.

Melanie, how are you doing today?

Melanie

I am doing really well. That was a mouthful, but I love the “cosmic alchemy in motion.” That’s what I’m all about and what I’m here to help others experience.

Daniela

Amazing. I’m so excited to have you here today. You have so much incredible astrology knowledge and spirituality knowledge. There’s just so much juicy goodness we’re going to be diving into in this episode.

To kick things off, I would love to hear a little bit about your journey. Obviously, you do a lot of amazing modalities, so how did you get into this work?

Melanie

You know, I come from the corporate world. Being that Capricorn is on my career line, I’ve always had that corporate, structured mentality. Just grinding in the corporate world.

But I always felt like there was something missing. Like my soul’s purpose within me was more than what I was doing. I was good in corporate. I was a great employee. But I always felt like my purpose here in this human experience was bigger than that.

That’s where spirituality — that awakening inside of me — became hungry for more. I had this appetite and spiritual curiosity that led me on this journey over the past five years.

Right before COVID started, like many people, I began questioning: What is my purpose here on Earth? I felt this calling. And being a 1/4 projector as well, I just feel like I’m exactly where I need to be in this spiritual work.

Daniela

That’s such a beautiful feeling to have. I can totally relate with going from the corporate world into spirituality. I went through a very similar journey, which is probably why it was so easy for us to connect.

You’ve got that heavy Capricorn energy. You know how to get things done. You know how to be competent in the workplace. But eventually it becomes, “Is this all there is? Is this really what I’m going to do for the rest of my life?”

Isn’t there something beyond the cubicle walls?

Melanie

Exactly. A lot of us grow up with this programming: wake up, go to work, do what you’ve been told your whole life. Finish school, get a degree, get a job.

But when we connect to ourselves and our purpose, we start feeling that deeper calling. That’s what I experienced for many years — this spiritual pull. And here I am.

Daniela

You are. And I’m so happy to have you.

I would love to share about my experience working with you because it truly changed my life to do this kundalini session. I’m not kidding.

We did this session at the beginning of the year, and I came to you at a time when I was honestly feeling really hopeless in my life. I had just quit a job that completely burned me out. I felt defeated, dejected, disappointed in life and honestly disappointed in the trajectory of my life up until that point.

I was carrying so much heaviness. I had no inspiration or motivation in my business. I felt completely stuck and didn’t know how to move forward.

So I came to you during that season.

Melanie

I remember hearing you express all of that. I wanted to understand what was feeling heavy for you and what blocks were showing up in your life.

So we approached the session with the intention of moving some of that stagnant energy. That energy sits in all of us at the root chakra, and the goal was to help balance and move it through.

Daniela

The experience was unlike anything I’ve ever had before, honestly, in the best way possible.

I barely even knew you at that time. You were basically a stranger. But within the first five minutes, just from the sound of your voice and your energy, I felt so safe.

I quickly realized, “This is someone I can trust. I can let go and allow her to guide me through this.”

It was extremely transformational. Halfway through the session, I could literally feel energy moving through my body. I had never experienced anything like that before.

I could feel movement in my abdomen. My throat started reacting — I think I was coughing at one point.

Melanie

Yes, you were.

Daniela

And I remember thinking, “Okay, something is moving.”

The key to all of it was surrender. I allowed myself to fully surrender to the experience.

And surrender isn’t easy. It requires trust and safety with the facilitator. But you really opened yourself to the process.

I did. I let myself cry. I breathed through the entire session in ways I never had before. I experienced visualizations. There was so much happening internally.

By the end of the session, I honestly felt like a different person.

Melanie

I remember you describing this massive release — like the heaviness had finally moved through you.

Sometimes the body and the mind need to work together so whatever has been stored inside can finally get the hell out.

Daniela

Exactly. And the most exciting part was what happened afterward.

The very next day, I woke up and for the first time in months, I actually felt alive again. The fatigue I had been carrying for so long was gone. I felt lighter. I woke up excited about life again.

And not only that — the clarity and inspiration started pouring in.

We had set intentions during the session around getting clarity in my business and reconnecting with soul-aligned ideas and momentum.

Within days, I suddenly felt like an open channel for creativity and inspiration. It was after that session that I started diving deeply into astrology and human design and combining them with branding and design in a way I had never seen before.

For the first time in years, I felt excited about my business again. I felt inspired to learn, research, create, and move forward.

That session reignited my passion. It reconnected me with my confidence, intuition, and inner fire that I had honestly lost for years.

Melanie

Hearing that is exactly why I do this work.

I’m facilitating, but your body is doing the work. Your energy is doing the work. It’s your willingness to surrender and give yourself permission to release.

Every time I hear stories like yours, it reminds me why this work matters.

Daniela

Absolutely. And I think one important thing to mention is that before working with you, I honestly had no idea what to expect.

I had heard of kundalini activation before, but I was honestly a little afraid of it. I’d seen things online that made it look intense or scary.

Melanie

And I remember you telling me that. But what people see online isn’t always the full picture.

Sometimes the experience can be intense if that’s what your body needs to express, but everything that comes up is meant to move through you.

Daniela

Exactly. I think there are so many misconceptions around spiritual modalities.

That’s why it’s so important to find a facilitator you genuinely trust — someone who can hold a safe, grounded space and guide people responsibly.

Because these experiences require care, maturity, leadership, and integrity.

And that’s absolutely what I experienced with you.

Melanie

Thank you. Holding safe space is everything.

When people feel safe, they can surrender. And surrender is what allows the healing, the breathwork, the kundalini activation, or whatever modality you’re working with to actually move through the body. Even if someone doesn’t have a dramatic experience, things are still integrating internally. That’s the beauty of these modalities.

Examples of soulful brands Daniela has coached and designed

Daniela

It also makes me think about intuitive practices in general — tarot, astrology, spiritual guidance, all of it.

I think it’s important not to give your power away to a facilitator or a spiritual tool. At the end of the day, these are tools designed to help you deepen your connection to yourself and your intuition.

The answers are always within you.

Melanie

Exactly. One of the greatest gifts we have is free will. You can receive insight, guidance, or messages through a spiritual modality, but ultimately, you have the free will to decide what to do with it.

That power always belongs to you.

Daniela

I love that. That feels so Aries-coded.

Melanie

Double Aries energy for sure. Freedom and autonomy all the way.

Exactly. Don’t tell me what to do.

Melanie

Oh my gosh, yes. Same.

Daniela

Oh, welcome to my entire adolescence, Melanie.

Don't tell me. Don't boss me around. Such an Aries thing. They love it.

Oh my gosh, Melanie, can we talk about the astrology session you did for me?

Melanie

Yeah, absolutely. Because I can talk astrology all day.

I know.

Yeah. Super, super powerful.

Daniela

Yeah. So we did a birth chart reading together, or do you have a different name for it?

Melanie

It’s an Astro Awakening Session because I feel that it really is an awakening that a person goes through when we do the session. It awakens them and helps them remember why their soul came into this earth, whatever things their soul is meant to evolve in. In this human experience, it’s all a journey that we’re here for.

Daniela

Have you ever seen Lion King?

Melanie

Yeah.

I love Lion King.

Daniela

That’s random, but it’s not. You know the scene with Mufasa and Simba, and Mufasa is basically telling Simba your calling is to be the king and to take your place at the throne? He says, “Remember who you are.”

Melanie

I love that. It’s when they’re walking through the field, right, with the stars?

Daniela

Yeah. When they’re walking, and Mufasa comes in to remind his son of his true soul purpose in this life.

Well, that’s how I look at birth chart readings.

Wow.

That’s what came to my mind when I think about the experience of working with you in this reading. It was like parting the clouds to get that clarity, to remind myself and awaken myself to the truth of who I am at my core. That’s why it’s so powerful. I really believe in this kind of thing.

Melanie

Yeah, I do too. The energies are very detailed and unique to all of us because no two Aries are the same. No two Geminis are the same. It really represents who we are as far as our sun, moon, and rising, and where all the planetary energies are within our charts and the houses they sit in.

And for you, being double fire and air, and having a powerful stellium — which is multiple planets in your 11th house — and another stellium in Capricorn, that really embodies who you are. Do you feel that connection of how it embodies what’s important to you and who you are?

Daniela

I didn’t have as much awareness of that until we did our session together.

I would say one of the biggest things I took away from the session was the keyword leadership because that was something that came up so much throughout our session, and it really stuck with me.

Leadership was actually kind of a deeper wound for me a lot of my life. For so long in my career, especially before starting a business, any corporate job I had, I would get so frustrated because I kept feeling like no one was seeing my leadership qualities. No one was acknowledging that potential that I knew was inside of me. Nobody was allowing me to step into a role that would let me take center stage as a leader.

I was so frustrated because I was stuck in all these assistant and support role positions my whole corporate career.

Melanie

I hear you on that.

I can empathize with you on that. Corporate, yeah.

Daniela

Yeah. So it was a huge source of frustration for me my whole life. During the session, that’s the biggest word I’ll always remember from our session together. It was leadership, leadership, leadership. Like, “You’re here to build. You’re here to leave a legacy.”

And I knew that deep inside, but it was so reassuring and validating to hear that from you, reflecting it back to me. Reading my chart, it’s literally in the stars to embody that kind of energy.

Since our session, I’ve actually noticed a big spike in my confidence. Even in the way I speak and carry myself, I’m taking myself more seriously now. A lot of that has to do with the Capricorn stellium you pointed out in my chart. It’s like, dang, I really do have this CEO boss energy, don’t I? Now I get to actually own it.

Melanie

Yeah, that was the theme because in every chart reading or session together, themes will pop up. Usually you’ll see that theme everywhere, and for you it was leadership.

It popped up everywhere. I was happy to remind you that your soul is here to lead, to build a community that’s meant for you — not to speak to the generalized audience, but to build the community that’s aligned for you.

Daniela

That’s amazing. It’s extremely validating. It’s the thing I’ve sort of had resistance to throughout my journey as an entrepreneur, building that community, but it’s also the thing I actually want the most.

It was really eye-opening, illuminating, and empowering, this whole reading with you, Melanie. It was really cool to be on the other side of things too, having someone read my chart instead of me reading someone else’s.

I got to have that experience of someone really seeing me, someone really looking deep into my soul. I know you’re a projector as well, so you have that X-ray vision. You literally have that innate ability to see deep into someone’s soul and see their true gifts and true potential, then really highlight that for someone because that’s what you did for me.

It’s just so nice to feel deeply seen on a soul level.

Melanie

Oh my gosh, thank you.

The other important thing I wanted to bring up for you is that you’ve moved into this different energy. Your progressed moon has moved into this new energy.

Daniela

Oh my gosh.

Yeah. For the next two and a half years, stepping into that Sagittarius energy and saying bye-bye, Scorpio.

Thank God.

But it was needed. That’s what’s great. This evolution we go through in this human experience is about going through what we need to go through with the different planetary energies.

Melanie

Yeah, it’s like bye-bye Scorpio and hello Sagittarius — expansion, networking, growth. That’s exciting. When I saw that, I was like, “You’ve got to hear this one.”

Daniela

I was so excited when you pointed out the progressed moon because you really described the last two or three years of my life.

I was completely experiencing a Scorpio lifestyle. I was alone a lot and going through a lot of karmic collapsing of cycles. I cycled through so many different friend groups. I said goodbye to so many people, so many unexpected tower moments, things collapsing out of the blue.

A lot of pain. Really painful last two years.

It all forced me to go into this deep inner transformation, to cocoon away from the outside world for the first time ever and really go on this huge spiritual awakening journey, which is incredible and transformational, but it kind of sucks.

Melanie

Yeah. It’s kind of like the rise of the phoenix, right? You’ve got to go through all of that to be where you are today.

The next evolution for the next two and a half years is that rise of the phoenix from the ashes.

Daniela

Yes. One hundred percent. That is what it has felt like.

And now, from what you helped me discover about the progressed moon moving into Sagittarius energy, I’m feeling that fiery energy now. Thank God. I’m feeling like I want to go out into the world finally and leave this dark cocoon and rise up like a phoenix and fly and be free and interact with the world again in a fun, freer way.

So I’m really excited. You got me very excited in that session.

One other thing I really appreciated was how thorough it was. It was so in-depth and well-researched.

I love that you approached it not just from an individual level, but you also zoomed out and helped me understand the transits in my life — what was going on during key years of my life that I didn’t know about before.

That really helped me make sense of some things from my past that were maybe big transition moments or painful transition experiences. It helped me make sense of everything from a personal growth perspective.

Melanie

That is so powerful because when you can shift your mindset from “Why did that happen to me? Everything sucks,” to “Oh, I can see there was a higher purpose for me going through that difficult experience,” that’s a really big shift into empowerment.

Daniela

Oh, absolutely.

For me, Saturn is huge. A lot of people look at Saturn as the great malefic, the taskmaster. Saturn kind of has a bad rap in astrology.

But Saturn is here to wake us up and teach us lessons that we need to move through in order to evolve into what our soul is meant to step into because we all have a life lesson and directive in this lifetime.

That’s where understanding Saturn, the cycles, the patterns, the karmic relations — it’s super powerful.

Melanie

I’m glad the areas in your life that we visited helped you realize that sometimes we have to go through challenging times in order to become the person we are through the lessons we’ve learned.

Daniela

Yeah.

Your unique perspective on Saturn and what you helped me understand about it in terms of my own life and birth chart has been really, really helpful.

Saturn can be such a difficult placement, but then to understand why I was designed to go through certain challenges and pain — I have my Saturn in Capricorn — and now I can understand that it has given me this incredible gift of learning discipline, endurance, and perseverance.

I do not give up easily. I’ve really learned that the hard way.

My God.

But I’m still going. I’m still kicking. I still have the business, even though I wanted to quit so many things so many times when things got really hard.

But I had this inner grit and perseverance that would not let me give it up.

I’ve gained this whole new perspective around the lessons of Saturn and the gifts that pain is actually designed to give through hardship because sooner or later, you get your ass kicked enough by Saturn, you’ll learn the lesson it’s designed to teach.

Melanie

Oh yeah, absolutely.

I think if someone can connect with that, for me, Saturn is literally sitting on my ascendant at 10 degrees Aries. My whole life, I’ve had that Saturn energy, that Capricorn endurance of not giving up and going, going, going.

But I always found myself wondering why I never felt good enough.

No matter what I was good at, I would learn it beyond what most people would, almost to perfection for myself, but I still didn’t feel like I was good enough.

Learning astrology and understanding where Saturn was in my chart woke me up.

The biggest thing was that it gave me permission to realize, “Okay, I see you. I see the evolution I need to go through in my lifetime and the lessons I need to learn.”

It’s here to help me move through self-sabotage and not feeling good enough. That’s my lesson because Saturn sitting on my ascendant is really in the first house for me — the house of self.

It’s there to show me that I need to push through any difficulty that I feel.

Even being here talking to you, I don’t normally like this kind of stuff, but I’m still pushing through the energy of what I feel because that’s what I’m here to learn.

Even though I feel uncomfortable, I’m still doing it.

Daniela

You know what that is, Melanie? That is literally the definition of courage, which is amazing. That’s what Aries is all about.

Amazing. So you’re doing it.

Melanie

Yeah, I’m doing it. I’m feeling uncomfortable. I don’t like it, but I’m still pushing through because my journey with astrology has been one step in front of the other.

In the past, I would take one step and then pause because of feeling uncomfortable, really feeling my Saturn placement without even understanding what it was about.

Going through all the different modalities I’ve learned and trained in, there was still that missing element of giving myself permission to know, “Okay, I see you, Saturn. I’ve felt this energy my entire life.”

Giving myself permission to realize this is what my soul is here to evolve through.

Wherever I feel uncomfortable, that’s where I need to push through.

Just super powerful.

Daniela

Very, very powerful. Yes.

Melanie, this has been such an incredible episode. You’re blowing my mind with so many nuggets of wisdom, so much astrological wisdom and advice. I really love talking astrology with you. This is so exciting. How are you feeling?

Melanie

Oh my gosh, we could talk for hours.

We can talk for hours, even impromptu.

Yeah, and we do. I love it.

We do talk for hours. So much fun.

Daniela

I would love to leave our audience with one final piece of advice, a little inspiration to leave on a high note.

Let’s think about somebody who is currently experiencing this Saturn resistance you’ve been helping us understand. Areas in their life where they’re feeling stagnant, resistance, and tension. They want to push through the discomfort, but they have no idea how.

What advice would you give to somebody like that?

Melanie

I think the greatest teacher is finding out where Saturn is on their natal chart and understanding the placement and maybe what’s transiting within their chart.

But the most important thing is first finding where Saturn is located because there’s truly a directive and a life lesson for them.

Once they connect with that energy, it’ll help them remember.

When a person can cast out all the noise around us — because this world has become very noisy — and truly tune in and go inward, maybe whatever feeling they’re having, just let it sit on their heart.

The heart space and heart energy are so much bigger than our mind. When we can really connect with our heart, we can hear the tiny whispers.

I know it sounds cliché, but when we listen to the tiny whispers of our heart, that can really show us the path we’re meant to be on.

So I would say connecting with the heart, going inward, and finding where Saturn is on their chart.

Each house within our chart has a life lesson that pertains to different areas of our life. That’s a lesson their soul is meant to evolve through.

Daniela

I love that. That is some awesome advice, Melanie. Thank you. Loved it.

Oh my goodness, we could talk for hours and hours. We may have to do a part two episode down the road.

Yes, I would love it too.

Lastly, why don’t you tell us where people can find you and if you’re promoting anything in particular?

Melanie

Yeah. The easiest way someone can get ahold of me and see what this cosmic alchemy in motion is all about is by visiting my website.

It’s a beautiful website that you created, so thank you. It truly represents my brand.

That would be SaturnOnMyAC.com.

That’s also my Instagram handle.

You can see all the different modalities that involve cosmic alchemy, and astrology is the framework it all goes by.

So come visit and reach out.

Daniela

Amazing. Oh my gosh, Melanie, what a joy this episode has been. I’m super excited. We’re definitely going to have to do a round two.

We can talk about this stuff all day long.

Melanie

I know. Hours and hours. Maybe we can even start a TV show about this.

Daniela

Oh gosh.

To all our listeners and watchers out there, thank you so much for joining us for this exciting conversation all about astrology and Saturn in particular.

Thanks, Melanie, for being with us today.

Melanie

Thank you.

Daniela

I will catch you all in the next episode. Take care. Bye-bye.

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About Melanie Martines - Karmic Astrologer, Soul Guide & Somatic Energy Practitioner, as well as the voice and spirit behind Saturn on my AC.

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